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GM, Bullfrog Power team up to make Volt even greener

The Globe & Mail -- General Motors Canada and Bullfrog Power Inc. are teaming up to sell a renewable-energy branded edition of the Chevrolet Volt electric powered car.

The new version of the Volt, which has been on sale in Canada since September, will require buyers to pay $198 to get Bullfrog to inject enough electricity from renewable sources into the grid to power the vehicle for two years.

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Submitted Feb 06, 2012 By: Gronski1

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tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:26,023 Points:1,981,410 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Feb 7, 2012 3:28:28 AM Ignore tomok Report Abuse ‘ …will require buyers to pay $198 to get Bullfrog to inject enough electricity from renewable sources into the grid to power the vehicle for two years.’ The cost of the Volt is already too high and this will make it cost just that much more. Lower the cost of the Volt, GM! Cheaper alternative fuels from algae, bacteria, the biomass or the waste stream. Cheaper renewable energy from solar, wind, hydro, thermal, tidal and/or nuclear to replace the oil that will not be there one day. NO electricity produced from coal, oil or natural gas. EV’s and Inbreds need a much longer driving/battery range, a different kind of ‘quick charge’ battery or charged battery swap, and a reasonable battery replacement price when that battery finally dies. *Develop an EV battery pack that does not overheat with operation of the vehicle, when charging or in long term storage. Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle is, produce and ‘drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. The price of fuel at the pump is too high! 12/22/2012!
PerSonneL Champion Author Alberta Posts:1,188 Points:736,815 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 6:48:32 PM Ignore PerSonneL Report Abuse like algae ?
SparkieMi Champion Author Kalamazoo Posts:1,444 Points:234,430 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 6:41:49 PM Ignore SparkieMi Report Abuse The Volt price needs to reduced a lot so the average person can afford it..
mageetp Champion Author British Columbia Posts:1,390 Points:269,120 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 6:25:32 PM Ignore mageetp Report Abuse Not for me yet, may be when the price is reasonable and the vehicles have proven themselves reliable.
neemund Champion Author Seattle Posts:4,675 Points:1,184,760 Joined:Jan 2007	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 6:24:51 PM Ignore neemund Report Abuse If people wish to pay for it then I'm not going to stop them. Seems like a dumb idea that is fine as long as I don't have to pay for it.
paulydel Champion Author Delaware Posts:7,284 Points:725,030 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 6:14:14 PM Ignore paulydel Report Abuse No electric vehicles for us. Don't want them don't need them.
freerobert Champion Author California Posts:1,040 Points:984,560 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 6:06:07 PM Ignore freerobert Report Abuse Everything that goes green = lots money money.
WhiteTreeIndian Champion Author New Jersey Posts:3,868 Points:765,920 Joined:Dec 2009	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 6:03:03 PM Ignore WhiteTreeIndian Report Abuse Prices need to be reasonable.
TTM77 Champion Author Maryland Posts:1,799 Points:1,081,530 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 6:00:07 PM Ignore TTM77 Report Abuse what we need is for it to not cost so much green.
camel1 Champion Author Minnesota Posts:6,527 Points:1,915,690 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 5:58:54 PM Ignore camel1 Report Abuse Strange concept. It only increases the price to consumers. How does it help sales?
badspots Champion Author Houston Posts:1,558 Points:411,845 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 5:52:49 PM Ignore badspots Report Abuse Ok.
mickealo Champion Author Spokane Posts:4,387 Points:1,793,050 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 5:50:59 PM Ignore mickealo Report Abuse not for me what we realy need is the pipeline from canada or better yet a refinnery in Montana that can handle & process tar oil
twiper1 Champion Author San Diego Posts:5,992 Points:1,241,960 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 5:48:38 PM Ignore twiper1 Report Abuse I wont buy one
slowtrain Champion Author Georgia Posts:1,882 Points:588,015 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 5:48:35 PM Ignore slowtrain Report Abuse Electric vehicles are not worth the money.
Voltus Champion Author Miami Posts:6,776 Points:1,225,855 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 5:45:17 PM Ignore Voltus Report Abuse another reason not to buy one...
Kmankeith Veteran Author Rhode Island Posts:312 Points:166,410 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 5:42:46 PM Ignore Kmankeith Report Abuse This will never make it. Destine for failure
PADI Champion Author Ontario Posts:4,353 Points:1,105,340 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 5:41:20 PM Ignore PADI Report Abuse Not my car at all!
balljars Champion Author Michigan Posts:6,607 Points:1,311,075 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 5:40:26 PM Ignore balljars Report Abuse The Volt is not for me.
shea33 All-Star Author Pensacola Posts:545 Points:179,660 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 5:37:26 PM Ignore shea33 Report Abuse give me gas
macvelli Champion Author Fort Worth Posts:1,570 Points:353,950 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 5:36:47 PM Ignore macvelli Report Abuse Good idea
inkedbiker74 Sophomore Author Akron Posts:223 Points:178,540 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 5:33:49 PM Ignore inkedbiker74 Report Abuse give it up GM. time to put it to rest, it didn't work. quit trying.
GordoM All-Star Author Detroit Posts:528 Points:773,940 Joined:Nov 2006	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 5:30:34 PM Ignore GordoM Report Abuse Sounds like something Al Gore would buy to show off while his estate's monthly electric bill is something like $4000/month. All image, no substance.
milespergallon Champion Author Illinois Posts:7,988 Points:1,569,215 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 5:28:10 PM Ignore milespergallon Report Abuse Stop! Stop! Stop! We D O N O T W A N T this junk!
TheSnowstorm Champion Author Montreal Posts:7,283 Points:1,574,675 Joined:June 2005	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 5:27:22 PM Ignore TheSnowstorm Report Abuse PithyOpiner: Hate to tell you this, but it has nothing to do with Canada and everything to do the misguided souls at the helm of Genereal Motors, of whom GM Canada has little or no leeeway with.
speedys Champion Author Utah Posts:5,174 Points:2,194,785 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 5:22:53 PM Ignore speedys Report Abuse More red tape and BS.
dad2two Champion Author Dallas Posts:2,282 Points:467,390 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 5:22:06 PM Ignore dad2two Report Abuse The renewable power does not have any real bearing on the electricity that the car is able to use. Just marketing hype.
PithyOpiner Champion Author Stockton Posts:13,447 Points:1,262,890 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 5:20:32 PM Ignore PithyOpiner Report Abuse One good way to kill sales of the Volt. Nice going, Canada.
tsgasprc All-Star Author Colorado Posts:831 Points:263,200 Joined:Jun 2010	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 5:18:05 PM Ignore tsgasprc Report Abuse More govt. red tape. They have to show this much alternative powered vehicle research.....
mugrb Champion Author Michigan Posts:4,900 Points:797,360 Joined:Sep 2007	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 5:17:39 PM Ignore mugrb Report Abuse Okay
ItisAJeepThing Champion Author Tucson Posts:16,040 Points:1,787,480 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 5:13:17 PM Ignore ItisAJeepThing Report Abuse Electric vehicles have to be charged someway to make up for federal and state gasoline taxes someway. But this doesn't sound like a fair way to collect money for road building and maintenance.
BobbyVA Champion Author Virginia Beach Posts:3,881 Points:841,300 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 5:12:20 PM Ignore BobbyVA Report Abuse If the Obama administration would let the oil companies drill we could overcome the terrorist OPEC nations and be oil neutral.
marsbars Champion Author Alaska Posts:1,407 Points:929,150 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 5:11:32 PM Ignore marsbars Report Abuse OK
SUSANCK Champion Author Chicago Posts:1,867 Points:367,875 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 5:11:18 PM Ignore SUSANCK Report Abuse We are still too far behind on this technology-and its still way too costly.
Caribou2011 Champion Author Ohio Posts:1,987 Points:416,295 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 5:11:00 PM Ignore Caribou2011 Report Abuse They need too add a fire extinguisher as well!!!
humblepie Champion Author Toledo Posts:17,248 Points:2,007,270 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 5:04:45 PM Ignore humblepie Report Abuse they deserve each other........
hibsaw Champion Author Mississippi Posts:6,197 Points:1,317,865 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 5:04:45 PM Ignore hibsaw Report Abuse The EVs and hybrids are going to get very popular when gas goes over $6.00 per gallon.
RAE344 Champion Author Virginia Beach Posts:1,216 Points:302,570 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 5:04:41 PM Ignore RAE344 Report Abuse Almost thought the Bullfrog group was the company that created the 100 mpg car two decades ago.
JENNYHK Champion Author Chicago Posts:1,859 Points:363,845 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 4:58:39 PM Ignore JENNYHK Report Abuse Too much money.
spiderjay Champion Author Little Rock Posts:3,810 Points:1,058,880 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 4:57:34 PM Ignore spiderjay Report Abuse electric has an uphill battle
MotherNatureCT Sophomore Author Connecticut Posts:193 Points:59,475 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 4:54:01 PM Ignore MotherNatureCT Report Abuse This saves us money how?
Bigbab Sophomore Author Maine Posts:105 Points:195,040 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 4:51:27 PM Ignore Bigbab Report Abuse Still too expensive
EmperorsFinest Champion Author Chicago Posts:1,019 Points:215,440 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 4:50:46 PM Ignore EmperorsFinest Report Abuse The car still sucks
BeachPatriot Rookie Author Maine Posts:34 Points:116,405 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 4:50:20 PM Ignore BeachPatriot Report Abuse The Volt would wither on the vine if it were not for massive federal subsidies.
marlita Champion Author Dayton Posts:2,561 Points:634,225 Joined:Mar 2010	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 4:49:59 PM Ignore marlita Report Abuse Who cares I don't
jeromehasbargen Champion Author Minnesota Posts:3,329 Points:650,300 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 4:49:42 PM Ignore jeromehasbargen Report Abuse If I could afford one I would maybe buy a Volt. Until then I will keep my current vehicle.
texasvet Champion Author Texas Posts:2,628 Points:279,410 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 4:49:11 PM Ignore texasvet Report Abuse Nothing green about a car that runs on coal power.
aarrrt Champion Author San Diego Posts:5,907 Points:1,313,265 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 4:48:04 PM Ignore aarrrt Report Abuse Huh?
Gasazhunter Champion Author Phoenix Posts:2,367 Points:663,660 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 4:47:40 PM Ignore Gasazhunter Report Abuse Pass.
Felixx Rookie Author Seattle Posts:90 Points:820,225 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 4:47:37 PM Ignore Felixx Report Abuse What's the fuzz about? I love breathing clean air. I don't like driving behind any Diesel.
dsaine Champion Author North Carolina Posts:1,090 Points:269,595 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 4:46:23 PM Ignore dsaine Report Abuse Ok.